Posts by defender of truth

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The Bible Teach book illustration about the child having to be put through a painful operation

by defender of truth in

had you going there for a minute ;).

now you're here... there are several problems with that illustration, as i see it.. ..... 1) god is the one who inflicted the life threatening ailment that requires an operation.

(he supposedly decided what sin would be defined as, then once adam 'sinned', he cursed all of adams descendants to sin, grow old and die.).

defender of truth

Thank you. This is a nice point at which to leave. Good luck with the Jwfacts translation to Spanish. :)

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Please help me destroy the logic of October 2014 Conversation With a Neighbor.

by kneehighmiah in

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20141001/gods-kingdom-prophecy-1/.

this has got to be a joke.

anyone with half a brain would destroy the logical fallicies in this article.

defender of truth

Yes, Ann's parody was excellent. You need to laugh at the Watchtower sometimes, it takes away some of their power.

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They continue to drop like flies

by suavojr in

jw
friends

yes, the jws continue to bleed their young ones, so far in my local kh 3 were dfd, one girl just turned 18 this month and packed her bags and said goodbye to the cult and her cultish parents, another young 18 year old man decided to have a non-jw girlfriend and decided to stop attending and is no longer a witness.

they continue to leave and wt leaders dont give a damn.

they dont do anything to help kids be successful and live a healthy life.. .

defender of truth

I really am sorry for any offense caused by my questioning rj's post, I hope that he hasn't left the site. Anything I read or hear that says something like 'black people are wired differently to white people' raises my ire. Maybe I looked at it in the wrong way.
Sorry if I came across as a 'Nazi'.

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Richard Dawkins defends mild pedophilia, says it does not cause lasting harm

by chrisuk in

http://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/richard_dawkins_defends_mild_pedophilia_says_it_does_not_cause_lasting_harm/.

defender of truth

Outlaw:"Who would that be Qcmbr?"
... Duh.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/3904/1/He-who-loves-me-will-OBEY-my-commandments#.U8w-vF2t-o8
.....
And this thread shows that you were friends..
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/164626/3/The-Bible-Says-The-Bible-Says#3055035

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Please help me destroy the logic of October 2014 Conversation With a Neighbor.

by kneehighmiah in

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20141001/gods-kingdom-prophecy-1/.

this has got to be a joke.

anyone with half a brain would destroy the logical fallicies in this article.

defender of truth

Thanks 3rdgen, but it was Cameron that did the kicking. Hopelessly-honest JW is a softy ;)

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The Bible Teach book illustration about the child having to be put through a painful operation

by defender of truth in

had you going there for a minute ;).

now you're here... there are several problems with that illustration, as i see it.. ..... 1) god is the one who inflicted the life threatening ailment that requires an operation.

(he supposedly decided what sin would be defined as, then once adam 'sinned', he cursed all of adams descendants to sin, grow old and die.).

defender of truth

Heartofaboy, Billy the Ex-Bethelite, life is to short: Thank you. I was wondering if it made sense. The positive feedback made it feel worthwhile ;)

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Please help me destroy the logic of October 2014 Conversation With a Neighbor.

by kneehighmiah in

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20141001/gods-kingdom-prophecy-1/.

this has got to be a joke.

anyone with half a brain would destroy the logical fallicies in this article.

defender of truth

Rattigan said:"The issue is: Does the establishment of the kingdom in heaven require a cult like group?"
..The issue is, 607 has no historical basis, 1914 can't be proven from the Bible, and there is zero evidence of God's kingdom ruling now.
.......
For those who haven't read the article, all the quotes from my above posts that start with Cameron: or Jon: are quoted directly from the article.
Jon is the example householder, and Cameron the model Jehovah's Witness.
Obviously, I made up Hopelessly-honest JW..

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Please help me destroy the logic of October 2014 Conversation With a Neighbor.

by kneehighmiah in

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20141001/gods-kingdom-prophecy-1/.

this has got to be a joke.

anyone with half a brain would destroy the logical fallicies in this article.

defender of truth

Cameron:"Interestingly, during the late 1800’s, sincere students of the Bible were moved to examine this and other prophecies very carefully. They began to discern that the seven times would end in the year 1914. And major world events since then confirm that 1914 was indeed the year that God’s Kingdom began ruling in heaven."
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Hopelessly-honest JW:"So, as my brother says, we used to believe that this world would end in 1914..OUCH! WHY DID YOU JUST KICK ME BROTHER?.. Oh, sorry, I meant that we believed the seven times would end in 1914, which didn't mean the same thing back then, but we have changed our minds quite a lot, not that that should bother you at all..
Oh, and we can definitely see the signs that these are the last days, the most painful and difficult time to live in all of human history. It's worse than ever before.
Oh my, is that the time? I'd better be going. I've got a doctors appointment, to get something for a nasty infection that probably would have killed me 100 years ago. Then I'll pick my 15 year old son up from school, he keeps complaining about it but I keep telling him that within the last 100 years children younger than him were being sent up chimneys and having their arms ripped off working in factories, besides the fact that his free dental braces on the NHS have helped him to get his confidence back. Ungrateful, that's what people are today, I tell you.. What with all this Internet and technological advances, kids don't know they're born.. Well, goodbye, and remember, don't google 1914!! "

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Please help me destroy the logic of October 2014 Conversation With a Neighbor.

by kneehighmiah in

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20141001/gods-kingdom-prophecy-1/.

this has got to be a joke.

anyone with half a brain would destroy the logical fallicies in this article.

defender of truth

Cameron:"Because of the Israelites’ disobedience, God allowed them to be conquered by the Babylonians in 607 B.C.E."
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Hopelessly-honest JW:"But please, DON'T go digging around for information on the internet, or at any library, to support that date. It will only make you have doubts about the very core of what we are trying to tell you about 1914. Sorry, brother, carry on."

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Please help me destroy the logic of October 2014 Conversation With a Neighbor.

by kneehighmiah in

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20141001/gods-kingdom-prophecy-1/.

this has got to be a joke.

anyone with half a brain would destroy the logical fallicies in this article.

defender of truth

Cameron:"Well, notice what we read in the very next verse. Daniel 12:9 says: “The words are to be kept secret and sealed up until the time of the end.” So these prophecies would only be understood much later, during “the time of the end.” And as we will soon discuss in our Bible study, all evidence indicates that we are now living in that time period. "
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Hopelessly-honest JW: "Yes, I agree, brother. So in other words, this Bible prophecy would only be understood at the completely unspecified 'time of the end', and the verses don't tell you when this is, what period in history that this could happen, or even another Bible book to refer to in order to give you a clue. Now, you just need to read our publications that tell you it began in 1914, although even we didn't believe that at first, we thought it was the end of the world..
You brought up a great point earlier about no specific year being mentioned in the Bible, and so after my brother here patronisingly commended you for looking for answers in Gods Word, we're going to take you through some mind-bending logic that only our book publishing company could possibly come up with."